Continuation of the second reading of the draft law amending the Child Protection Act and other laws (427 SE)
Session: 15th Riigikogu, 4th session, plenary sitting
Date: 2024-12-03 12:16
Participating Politicians:
Total Speeches: 131
Membership: 15
Agenda Duration: 1h 58m
AI Summaries: 131/131 Speeches (100.0%)
Analysis: Structured Analysis
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Summary
Fourth on the agenda is the continuation of the second reading of the draft law amending the Child Protection Act and other laws, initiated by the Government of the Republic. A presentation from the State Assembly Board took place at the State Assembly rostrum, and, naturally, the progress of the proceedings was accompanied by a presentation from Social Committee member Eero Merilinn. The aim of the draft is to clarify the process of reassessing restrictions on working with children, to increase clarity and transparency, but at the same time, it must not in any way jeopardize the safety of the child. The legislative amendments mainly affect paragraphs 5–8 of § 20, deadlines and document submissions, and clarification of the roles of the parties involved; the changes will allow the Social Insurance Board, and if necessary, the Ministry of Justice, to be involved in the reassessment. Six amendments were submitted – Riina Solman made four and the EKRE faction two – and the committee thoroughly reviewed them.
In Chapter 2, the focus was on the fact that the draft does not change the basis for establishing restrictions, and therefore does not jeopardize the safety of the child, but increases transparency and clarity of the procedure. In the context of the draft, a wide-ranging discussion arose regarding both legal nuances and practical applications, including a discussion about the impact of the opinion received from the law firm Ellex Raidla and observations on how pedophilia is handled in the context of the criminal record registry. In conclusion, it was determined that the changes will help to clarify and normalize procedures while keeping the safety of the child as the top priority.
Decisions Made 8
The steering committee proposed continuing the second reading on December 3rd and concluding the second reading; the third reading is scheduled for December 11th, and the final vote will take place during that session.
Proposal 1 (Riina Solman) – to leave out section 1, point 11 and section 2; result: 21 in favor, 42 against; did not gain support.
Proposal 2 (Riina Solman) – the same conclusion as in proposal 1; the result: 22 in favor, 41 against; did not find support.
Proposal 3 (Riina Solman) – same conclusion; the result: 23 in favor, 40 against; did not find support.
Proposal 4 (Riina Solman) – same conclusion; result: 23 in favor, 41 opposed; did not find support.
Proposal 5 (EKRE faction) – to discard the entire complex mechanism; the result: 23 in favor, 41 against; did not gain support.
Proposal 6 (EKRE group) – to reject the sixth proposal; result: 22 in favor, 40 against; did not receive support.
Motion to interrupt: EKRE put forward a motion to interrupt the continuation of the second reading; result: 24 in favor, 42 against; failed to gain support; the continuation of the second reading was finally concluded.
Most Active Speaker
The most active participant in the draft discussions was pid -YQdcxPPIcs (Eero Merilind), whose documented presenter role indicates a member of the social affairs committee and a background within the governing coalition. His representativeness primarily stems from the consistency of his presentations and submissions – he provided an overview of the proceedings, answered questions, and provided summarizing explanations. Connections regarding his position: he is a member of the social affairs committee, whose role is to guide the committee's proceedings and explain the content of the draft; politically, he could be classified as "other," meaning not directly representing the left- or right-wing spectrum, but rather as a key player leading cooperation and discussion within the committee.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
AI Summary
The fourth agenda item concerns the continuation of the second reading of the Government-initiated draft bill No. 427 to amend the Child Protection Act and other laws; the presenter is Eero Merilinnu, a member of the Social Affairs Committee.
Eero Merilind
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Eero Merilind spoke about continuing the second reading of amendments to the Child Protection Act and other laws, emphasizing the main changes: clarity of the procedure for reevaluating the restriction and a 60-day deadline, the required documents and clarification of the roles of the parties, and the involvement of the Estonian Social Insurance Board with the Ministry of Justice, noting that the amendments do not change the grounds for the restriction or threaten the child’s safety, and that pedophilia is not allowed, and the third reading is planned for December 11 and the final vote will be held on the same day.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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They thank and note that colleagues have clarifying questions, and ask Kert Kingo to respond.
Kert Kingo
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Kert Kingo asks for a straight answer as to who voted and how on EKRE's proposed amendment, which proposed excluding from the bill the activities that promote pedophilia and activities that promote pedophiles, and how the votes were divided.
Eero Merilind
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He reiterated that pedophiles must not work with children even if their punishment has been recorded in the archive, and gave an overview of the vote, where EKRE wanted to strike § 2 from the draft, with Kalle Grünthal, Kert Kingo and Priit Sibul in favor, Karmen Joller, Irja Lutsar, Eero Merilind, Madis Timpson against, and the neutrals Hele Everaus and Helmen Kütt.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi invites Helle-Moonika Helme onto the stage.
Helle-Moonika Helme
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Helle-Moonika Helme claims that the given paragraph erases a pedophile from the criminal register, makes him a 'clean slate,' and allows him to work with children, and asks what social benefit such a solution would bring and whether it was even discussed in the committee.
Eero Merilind
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I would like to reiterate once again that, under this bill, pedophilia will not be legalized in Estonia, and our constitution, as do several international conventions, obligates the Estonian state to protect children.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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This is merely an invitation for Kalle Grünthal to come onto the stage.
Kalle Grünthal
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Grünthal stated that, in fact, no amendments were introduced to protect children from pedophiles; the purpose of the law is different and favors pedophiles and allows them to work with children again, and he asked why the doctors on the committee voted for the pedophiles.
Eero Merilind
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Merilind emphasised that there is no reason in the committee to exclude amendments to § 20 of the Child Protection Act, since the lifetime ban on pedophiles working with children already applies under current legislation, and the grounds for reevaluation have been in force since 2022, and the current amendments concern only the processing of the application, not giving pedophiles the opportunity to work with children.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi invited Mart Helme to speak.
Mart Helme
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Mart Helme accuses that the draft contains provisions for concealing pedophilia and for continuing to employ pedophiles to work with children, and asks who those ministry officials were and requests that the names be published.
Eero Merilind
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According to a legal opinion, pedophilia is a criminal offense, and the person who committed it may not work with children, both while the sentence is in effect and in cases where the offense has prescribed and the data has been archived.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, invited Kert Kingo to speak.
Kert Kingo
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Kert Kingo stressed that the law must be interpreted unambiguously for everyone, and asked the commission to provide an overview of the discussion, whether the law was understood in the same way or whether a different understanding had emerged.
Eero Merilind
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There was a lengthy discussion about this in the commission; people with greater legal experience discussed the topic, and we relied on the ministry's assessment that the law is understandable.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, invited Rene Kokku onto the stage.
Eero Merilind
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Eero Merilind said that this concerns the Ellex Raidla law firm, and that its opinion is freely accessible to everyone, and he may also share it in print.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, asked Kalle Grünthal to come.
Kalle Grünthal
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Kalle Grünthal expresses criticism that the draft bill has been prepared in the private sector, not in the ministry, and that the claim that pedophiles cannot work with children is, in his view, knowingly false, because the data in the criminal records registry can be erased and pedophiles can return to work.
Eero Merilind
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I would like to reiterate that pedophiles must not work with children, and employers have an obligation to check their employees' backgrounds.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Arvo Aller is invited onto the stage.
Arvo Aller
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According to Arvo Alleri, the committee, at the previous occasion during the second reading, withdrew the draft for clarification, and he asks whether funds have now been found through a law firm to clarify the ministry's positions and not to omit § 1 paragraph 11 and § 2, and whether the committee could take a deeper look and decide for itself rather than proceed at the ministry's wish.
Eero Merilind
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I refute these claims: as the bill’s lead rapporteur, I personally took this assessment, and since last time I was at a loss with the interpretation, I consulted a law firm's assessment, which we discussed in the committee, and the committee arrived at the same conclusion without having seen the law firm's assessment.
Helle-Moonika Helme
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Helle-Moonika Helme claims that although it is found that pedophiles are not allowed to work with children, the law still provides the possibility that a Social Insurance Board official may reassess this and allow a pedophile to work with children.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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This is a brief request to invite Helle-Moonika Helme to speak.
Eero Merilind
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The commission has reached the conclusion that pedophiles must not work with children, even under the new law.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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This is a short plea to urge Rene Kokk to step up.
Eero Merilind
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Merilind recalled that the committee's discussions took place at different times, and she voiced her opinion immediately after the previous meeting, in order to ensure that pedophiles cannot work with children, and she cited November 1 as the date.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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If it is a public document and you are ready to disclose it, copies will be requested from the secretariat after completion so that they can be consulted during negotiations.
Eero Merilind
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They emphasize that this is a commissioned opinion and it should also be visible on the Riigikogu's homepage.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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They said that it is not necessary, and they hope that it is among the draft materials, and the session committee will check whether it is there.
Riina Solman
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Riina Solman asks why the Social Committee did not support the amendment proposal that would enable, based on a personal identification code check, to detect convicted pedophiles when a name is changed and to ensure compliance with restrictions on dealing with children.
Eero Merilind
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The commission discussed this and stressed that the control is carried out on the basis of the personal identification code, not on the basis of the name.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi invites Mart Helmet to speak.
Mart Helme
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Mart Helme draws attention to the handling of the bill, asks why, in the case of a rejected bill, competitive legal opinions were not taken into account, and emphasizes that differing opinions can bring clarity.
Eero Merilind
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We discussed these questions in the committee several times and we arrived at the same conclusions regardless of the legal opinion.
Anti Poolamets
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Anti Poolamets asks the presenter for examples of other reassessments, including those concerning drug addicts and violent offenders, and how these examples have motivated the need for reassessment.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi asks Anti Poolametsa.
Eero Merilind
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We focused mainly on pedophiles, because working with children is out of the question for them; checks are carried out based on the criminal registry and the personal identification code, and the employer must ensure that a person with a clean record is hired.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, asks that Mart Maastiku be invited onto the stage.
Mart Maastik
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The speech raises the question of how an employer can verify a potential employee's background and obtain reliable information if data deleted from the register are not accessible, in order to prevent hiring pedophiles who work with children.
Eero Merilind
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The punishment for pedophilia does not disappear even if it expires, and the data recorded in the archive are not deleted.
Priit Sibul
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Did I understand correctly that in the committee it was said about Riina Solman’s proposals Nos. 1 and 2, which concern working with children, that officials of the Ministry of Social Affairs do not currently see a need to revise the provisions, because they have only recently come into force and the wording took effect two years ago?
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The deputy speaker Toomas Kivimägi asks Priit Sibul to take the floor.
Eero Merilind
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The Commission did not support those proposals under which the Estonian Social Insurance Board would have to seek an assessment from the prosecutor's office in cases of crimes and an assessment from the Ministry of Justice in cases of misdemeanors when processing a reconsideration application, because although the draft already allows involving the Ministry of Justice, it would become mandatory and would clearly bring about an unwarranted administrative burden and would give the applicant an easier way to challenge the procedural grounds for the denial of the reconsideration.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The deputy speaker invited Riina Solman to speak.
Riina Solman
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Riina Solman asks why such a legal amendment was even made to start the reassessment procedure, discusses the administrative burden and whether internal ministry reassessments can really reduce the burden, and emphasizes the need to give the public the opportunity to seek the restoration of their rights through the courts, even in matters that deeply affected the past, finally asking why we fear the power of the court.
Eero Merilind
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I don't believe that pedophilia will be legalized in Estonia, but the Supreme Court has said that in a rule-of-law state no one should be restricted in a situation where the act is no longer punishable, and although in the future, through changes to the laws, it may be possible for pedophiles to work with children, this is not currently possible, and this law does not give pedophiles the right to work with children.
Mart Maastik
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Maastik expressed concern about children's safety and asked how archival data and registries could be made accessible to employers and ordinary citizens to prevent situations where pedophiles can get jobs in kindergartens.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, invited Mart Maastiku to speak.
Eero Merilind
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The commission explained that the employer must verify the data, and if the data cannot be obtained, the employer may request an opinion from the Ministry of Justice.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The deputy chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, invited Siim Pohlaku onto the stage.
Siim Pohlak
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Siim Pohlak criticised the process initiated by the Reform Party in 2022, by which a person who has committed sexual offenses against children is allowed to return to childcare facilities and to work with children, and he drew attention to the fact that the restriction used instead of a ban leaves discretion open and allows pedophiles to get close to children.
Eero Merilind
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According to the presentation, reassessment in cases of sexual harassment is impossible; the paragraphs added in 2022 are reportedly decriminalized; in response to Mart Maastik I located this passage, and by performing criminal-record checks one can automatically select the employment restriction for a person who works with a child, and the entire data set will be shown to the person making the query.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi invites Priit Sibul to take the floor.
Priit Sibul
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Priit Sibul asked about amendment proposals Nos. 1 and 2 to the Child Protection Act § 20, subsections 1–2, and noted that ministry officials confirmed that it came into force on October 1, 2022, and only two years have passed since the assessment, and a reassessment is not considered necessary. However, these amendments would have expanded the list of offenses for which the restriction on working with children would remain in effect even after the deletion of criminal records and archiving, and would concern §§ 172–174; but the ministry's response was that the current wording remains in force for some time and a reassessment is not considered necessary.
Eero Merilind
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The Commission discussed the proposal to extend the list of offenses for which the restriction on working with children remains in force after deletion from the criminal register and transfer to the criminal register archive, by adding sections 172, 173, 174 and 237–2373 of the Penal Code, which relate to serious crimes against children and terrorism-related offenses, and the Commission did not take these proposals into account.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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This is a brief request to invite Arvo Alleri to speak.
Arvo Aller
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Arvo Aller discusses changing the terminology of the Child Protection Act, where a restriction is used instead of a prohibition, and asks why we restrict rather than forbid, giving examples of how, in kindergarten, one could work with one group instead of two, and how the decision would reach within 60 days in order to go to work.
Eero Merilind
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The Commission explained that subsections 1 and 4 of § 20 do not establish anything beyond what is stated in subsection 4, and the draft does not create any new grounds for reassessment; these elements were added to the law already in 2022, partly stemming from a Supreme Court ruling and partly in cooperation with the Ministry of Justice, with whom those provisions were reviewed, where changes in the criminalization of the offense have taken place.
Urve Tiidus
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They asked whether the employer has a significant responsibility and obligation to ensure access to candidate data, and whether there are clear regulations governing this responsibility.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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This is a short prayer used to address Urve Tiiduse.
Eero Merilind
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Eero Merilind confirms that a regular citizen can check data from the criminal registry, and that the data will not disappear from there, and that pedophiles will have no possibility whatsoever to initiate a request for reevaluation.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The speech is simply a plea directed at Siim Pohlak.
Siim Pohlak
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Siim Pohlak called on conscientious coalition MPs not to support the draft bill, arguing that the explanations are not convincing and that in the draft the prohibition is replaced with the word "restriction," which would not guarantee the ban's entry into force, and there are no exhaustive answers.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman, Toomas Kivimägi, thanks everyone.
Siim Pohlak
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Siim Pohlak said that this is merely misdirection, and he urged coalition MPs to listen to their conscience and to withhold support for moving the bill forward.
Eero Merilind
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As a final word, he stressed that pedophiles must not work with children, both while the sentence is in effect and when the offense has expired and the data have been archived.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Toomas Kivimägi thanked the presenter, said that he would not interfere in the substantive discussion, but highlighted Raidla's opinion that pedophiles do not have that option, and noted that there may be other opinions and that this opinion was not available to everyone immediately, added that we have a second reading and that the Riigikogu plenary will pass the laws and open negotiations, and finally invited Alexander Chaplygin to speak.
Aleksandr Tšaplõgin
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Alexander Chaplygin stated that the state is increasingly intruding into citizens' private lives, and the bill would increase state control and give officials who deal with children even more powers, referring to the Scandinavian model, where the state secretly takes ordinary families away from their children and places them in foster homes, including those with same-sex parents, and he voted against this bill because he does not want a state where parents are replaced by the state.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi thanks, asks Kert Kingo, and gives him eight minutes of extra time.
Kert Kingo
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Kert Kingo claims that the coalition's draft bill would reassess the ban on working with children and could allow pedophiles to work with children again, although the text is, in his words, black-and-white and incomprehensible.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chair thanked Helle-Moonika Helme and gave her eight minutes of extra time.
Helle-Moonika Helme
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Helle-Moonika Helme claims that the draft of the Child Protection Act contains a deliberately inserted paragraph that would allow deletion from the criminal registry and would permit pedophiles to work with children, and is therefore purposeful and a serious threat to child protection.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The speech began with thanks, and Arvo Alleri was asked to take the floor.
Arvo Aller
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Arvo Aller said that EKRE stands up for children and does not support the current draft bill, because in its wording it would become a prohibition and could allow prohibited individuals to work in childcare facilities, and he urged members of the Riigikogu to vote against the bill and to amend it to ensure children's safety.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The content of the talk consisted of a big thank you, and Kalle Grünthal asked for additional time, the duration of which was eight minutes.
Kalle Grünthal
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Kalle Grünthal claims that a draft bill that would allow deleting criminal records and letting pedophiles work with children destroys, in his view, the myth of man as the crown of nature and endangers children's welfare, and calls on the coalition to show that they care about children and are not putting a dunce cap on their own heads.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman thanks and asks Züleyxa Izmailovat.
Züleyxa Izmailova
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This speech describes Draft Bill 427, which clarifies amendments to the Child Protection Act, to improve early detection and assistance, to strengthen cooperation with municipalities and the Social Insurance Board, and to ensure that only suitable individuals may work with children, while increasing the availability of support services, reducing duplication, and investing in the development of the system, in order to provide every child with a safe and well-cared-for growth environment.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Toomas Kivimägi thanked Züleyxat, clarifying that although all Riigikogu members may participate in the negotiations, Züleyxat also had a mandate from the faction, and this may be taken as the faction's position, but here any Riigikogu member can participate.
Riina Solman
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Riina Solman said that Draft Bill 427 does not reduce risks and may even increase them, if the assessment of a person who has previously committed a crime against a child is raised to the level of the Estonian Social Insurance Board and the ministries, because oversight would remain in the shadows and the administrative burden on employers would grow, so hurrying would not be appropriate and the responsibility should lie with an independent judiciary.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The speech is a brief request to obtain three additional minutes.
Riina Solman
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Riina Solman emphasized that the state reduces public accountability, but there is a need to strengthen the restrictions on people who work with children and to broaden the list of crimes for which a ban on working with children remains in effect even after deletion from the criminal register, and that the assessment should be given by the Prosecutor's Office, not the Social Insurance Board, but the coalition did not support the proposed amendments and the bill's proceedings were halted.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Toomas Kivimägi acknowledged that a little remained unclear about whether a motion to interrupt could be submitted by a faction and whether the proposal is concrete, Riina Solman said that the opposition would come soon, and Martin Helme asked for extra time—eight minutes.
Martin Helme
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Martin Helme claims that the draft bill presented under the name of the Child Protection Act creates a mechanism that helps pedophiles get close to children and makes their lives easier. He also accuses the coalition of lying and points to Estonia's demographic crisis and the youth suicide crisis.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The deputy speaker Toomas Kivimägi informed that, on behalf of the EKRE faction, a written proposal to suspend the second reading of draft bill 427 had been submitted; Varro Vooglaid, please.
Varro Vooglaid
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Varro Vooglaid presents a simple and unconditionally valid principle: that anyone whose court verdict has become final finding them guilty of sexual crimes involving children may never work in child-related positions, and he condemns the fact that the discussion of child protection drifts into a maze of norms, rather than taking the practically necessary steps to protect the child.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The speech contains a great expression of gratitude and appeals to Evelin Poolametsa with a request.
Evelin Poolamets
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Evelin Poolamets emphasized that the government's bill allows certain individuals with erased criminal records to cancel the restriction on working with a child that has been imposed on them, thereby endangering the safety of vulnerable children, and called on the Riigikogu not to approve this bill and to focus on protecting the well-being of the child.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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He thanks wholeheartedly and invites Madis Timpsoni to speak.
Madis Timpson
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Madis Timpson stressed that pedophilia is not being legalized and that pedophiles must not work with children, and explained that since January 1 of last year, the heads of childcare facilities—and before hiring—are obliged to annually check the backgrounds of employees in the registry, which is free, referring to e-toimik.ee and info@karistusregister.ee.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi thanked them for the explanations and turned to Mart Helme.
Mart Helme
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Mart Helme stated that the draft bill turns the ban into a restriction and paves the way for extrajudicial neglect of child protection, while criticizing the replacement of the Constitution's actual wording with an annotated edition.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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The vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi asks for a moment so that he will not be accused of voluntarism, and asks whether more time is needed.
Mart Helme
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Mart Helme expresses a desire to obtain additional time.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Vice-chairman Toomas Kivimägi said that three minutes of extra time are needed.
Mart Helme
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Mart Helme accused the Reform Party coalition of spreading lies and pushing through harmful bills, called them a corrupt gang of bandits, and warned that their power would end sooner or later — that is, migrants may ultimately determine the course of the situation.
Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
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Toomas Kivimägi offered Riina Solman a choice between a rebuttal and delivering a speech on behalf of the faction, and Solman chose to speak on behalf of the faction and was granted permission.
Riina Solman
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Riina Solman thanked the Isamaa faction and other participants, but expressed opposition to the draft, because although Isamaa made four sensible amendment proposals, they fell on deaf ears, and the implementation of the law could create security gaps and increase the danger to children, therefore she stressed dialogue, additional assessments, and the suspension of the bill's proceedings to ensure children's safety.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The vice-chairman Arvo Aller closed the deliberations and announced that six amendment proposals have been made to this draft bill, which will be reviewed; the first amendment proposal was submitted by Riina Solman, and the steering committee recommends disregarding it.
Helir-Valdor Seeder
Profiling Isamaa fraktsioonAI Summary
They ask you to vote in favor of this amendment proposal.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The vice-chair Arvo Aller begins preparing for the vote, presents Riina Solman's first amendment proposal and the steering committee's proposal to disregard it, and asks colleagues to take a position and to vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The first proposal did not receive support (21 in favour, 42 against), and Riina Solman submitted a second amendment proposal, and the steering committee recommends disregarding it.
Helir-Valdor Seeder
Profiling Isamaa fraktsioonAI Summary
He thanks you and asks you to vote in favor of this amendment proposal.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The deputy chairman Arvo Aller begins preparing for the vote, puts Riina Solman's second amendment proposal to the vote, and follows the leadership committee's proposal to disregard it, asking those present to take a position and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The proposal did not receive support (22 in favor, 41 against); Riina Solman submitted the third amendment proposal, and the steering committee recommended that it be disregarded.
Helir-Valdor Seeder
Profiling Isamaa fraktsioonAI Summary
He also asks you to vote for this amendment proposal.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The vice-chairman Arvo Aller opens the session and asks Siim Pohlakul to pose a question.
Siim Pohlak
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Siim Pohlak asks whether the government coalition has a procedure that would prove that their amendment proposals have been read and understood, especially those that protect the rights of Estonian children, and whether it is possible to find out why they simply vote them down.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The procedure went through the Social Committee, where the proposals were reviewed; there were representatives from each faction who conveyed this information to the factions, and Kalle Grünthal asked the chair of the meeting a question.
Kalle Grünthal
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Grünthal said that some of the coalition MPs still have a conscience and want to be there for the Estonian people, while the rest let them vote the way they want.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The vice-chairman Arvo Aller notes that he does not see any connection to the sitting's procedures, but brings Riina Solman's third amendment proposal to a vote, on which the leading committee recommends disregarding it, asking everyone to take a stand and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The proposal did not gain support (23 in favour, 40 against, 0 abstentions); Riina Solman submitted the fourth amendment proposal, and the steering committee wishes to disregard it.
Helir-Valdor Seeder
Profiling Isamaa fraktsioonAI Summary
Helir-Valdor Seeder thanks and asks for the vote on this amendment proposal.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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At the meeting chaired by Arvo Alleri, preparations for the vote will begin, Riina Solman's fourth amendment proposal will be presented, and the steering committee's proposal to disregard it; you are asked to take a position and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The Riigikogu voted for the fourth amendment proposal with 23 votes in favour, 41 against, and 0 abstentions, and the proposal received no support; at the same time the EKRE faction submitted a fifth amendment proposal and the leading committee recommended disregarding it; Martin Helme asks.
Martin Helme
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Martin Helme said that discarding the fifth and sixth proposals would remove a complex mechanism that keeps pedophiles from having the opportunity to work with children again, and urged everyone to support it and to vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The preparation for the vote is starting; the EKRE faction submitted its fifth amendment proposal, and the leading committee recommends that it be disregarded; they are asked to take a stand and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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Twenty-three members of the Riigikogu supported the fifth amendment proposal, forty-one opposed, zero abstentions, therefore it did not gain support; the sixth amendment proposal was submitted by the EKRE faction, and the leading committee's proposal is to leave it out of consideration.
Martin Helme
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Martin Helme invites everyone to express their own preference by casting a vote and asks them to participate in the voting.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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Vice-Chairman Arvo Aller put the sixth amendment proposal to a vote, began preparing it, and the steering committee recommended disregarding it, asking to take a stand and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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Twenty-two Riigikogu members were in favor of the sixth amendment proposal, forty against and zero abstentions; the proposal did not gain support, we have reviewed the amendments and the lead committee's proposal is to terminate the second reading of Bill 427, but the EKRE faction has submitted a motion to interrupt, and preparations for the vote are under way.
Helle-Moonika Helme
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He said before the vote that he would take a two-minute break so that the coalition could think again about whether they are on the side of the pedophiles or of the children.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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The vice-speaker Arvo Aller announced that there is a two-minute recess.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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Arvo Aller made a proposal on behalf of the EKRE faction to suspend the second reading of Bill No. 427, and called on Parliament to take a stand and vote.
Aseesimees Arvo Aller
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24 members of the Riigikogu voted in favor of interruption, 42 against and 0 abstentions; the proposal did not receive support and the second reading has been completed.