Inquiry Regarding the Alleged Vandalism of Andrei Shumakov's Car (No. 630)

Session: 15th Estonian Parliament, 3rd session, plenary session

Date: 2024-05-13 19:37

Total Speeches: 40

Membership: 15

Agenda Duration: 40m

AI Summaries: 40/40 Speeches (100.0%)

Analysis: Structured Analysis

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Summary

The agenda item focused on the interpellation submitted to the Riigikogu on April 29, which was presented by Jaak Valge, Varro Vooglaid, Arvo Aller, and Rain Epler, concerning the alleged destruction of Andrei Šumakov’s car on the night of December 8. Central to the interpellation were questions regarding the car’s ownership, driving rights, and individuals associated with the vehicle, as well as why the information provided in various publications and agency explanations is contradictory. The questions raised also touched upon a possible hybrid operation by Russian special services targeting Estonian security, defining maritime tasks, the scope of data disclosure, and the roles played by various agencies in their operations. During the discussion, various claims were voiced, and emphasis was placed on the need for clarity, fact-checking, and ensuring the safety of the press and overall security.

Decisions Made 1
Collective Decision

No decisions were taken; the interpellation received answers reflecting both the opposition's and the government's positions, and the parliamentary debate will continue, if necessary, in the context of additional information and judicial proceedings.

Most Active Speaker
Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge

Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed

The most active speaker was Riigikogu member Jaak Valge (right-wing, Isamaa/Thema background). He introduced the substance of the interpellation and guided the debate, emphasizing the clarity of the facts and raising questions regarding the ownership of vehicle usage and the motives for the assault. He has been characterized as a right-wing political figure.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:37:59
AI Summary

Today's third item on the agenda addresses the interpellation submitted on April 29th of this year by Jaak Valge, Varro Vooglaid, Arvo Aller, and Rain Epler concerning the alleged vandalism of Andrei Šumakov's car. The presentation of this inquiry will be given by Jaak Valge.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
19:38:21
AI Summary

Jaak Valge confirms he has five minutes.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:38:30
AI Summary

Chairman Lauri Hussar confirms that there are five minutes.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
19:38:32
AI Summary

The questioner seeks clarification on whether the car destruction that occurred as part of the Russian special service's hybrid operation involved the vehicles belonging to Minister of the Interior Lauri Läänemets and Andrei Šumakov, head of Delfi's Russian-language editorial office. Furthermore, they inquire whether Šumakov even possesses a car or a driver's license, and who the vehicle actually belongs to.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:41:58
AI Summary

The Chairman thanks [the previous speaker] and asks that the Riigikogu rostrum be returned to the Minister of the Interior, Lauri Läänemets, so that he may answer the interpellation.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
19:42:12
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets stated before the Riigikogu that the attack targeting Andrei Šumakov's car was planned by Russian special services, and that the criminal investigation is being handled by the Prosecutor's Office; the minister is not involved in the matter, and the safety of journalists and a free press must be guaranteed in Estonia.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:47:45
AI Summary

Chairman Lauri Hussar thanks the Minister and calls upon Mart Helme to ask questions.

Mart Helme
Mart Helme
Profiling Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna fraktsioon
19:47:49
AI Summary

Mart Helme claims that institutions are subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior, and rhetorically asks whether the smashing of his car window and the breaking into his apartment was not a malicious operation by the Russian special services intended to intimidate him.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:48:59
AI Summary

Now is your time.

Mart Helme
Mart Helme
Profiling Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna fraktsioon
19:49:07
AI Summary

He asks the audience if his situation was a case of malicious activity by the Russian special services.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
19:49:11
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets said that the Estonian Security Police (KAPO) and the Prosecutor's Office are carrying out the investigation, and the individuals will be taken to court, as the evidence is sufficient. However, he could not comment on what exactly happened at that time or whether it took place in Russia or Estonia, and he added that he was very sorry about the theft of the car stereo.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:50:04
AI Summary

Chairman Lauri Hussar invites Mart Maastik to speak.

Mart Maastik
Mart Maastik
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
19:50:06
AI Summary

Maastik emphasizes that before anyone is declared a hero, there must be clear evidence or a court ruling, along with verifiable testimony regarding orders from the Russian special services concerning the destruction of property. Otherwise, making him a hero here is improper, and something has been stolen from every single one of us.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
19:51:21
AI Summary

Lauri Läänemets stated that the influence of Russian special services on the Estonian state is serious, and the Security Police (KAPO) have described their plan to intimidate and exert influence over the entire society. Furthermore, the Prosecutor's Office is leading the investigation, deciding on the disclosure of information, and the court's assessment is awaited.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:53:36
AI Summary

Chairman Hussar called Varro Vooglaid to the stage.

Varro Vooglaid
Varro Vooglaid
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
19:53:37
AI Summary

Varro Vooglaid stated that he does not merely trust allegations and demanded factual evidence be presented to the public concerning the Russian special services' possible involvement in the breaking of two car windows, noting that the only proof so far has been the sheer incompetence of those operations.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
19:54:47
AI Summary

He said the investigation is being led by the Prosecutor's Office, with investigative procedures being carried out by officials from the Security Police. Although this involves the damaging of property belonging to two individuals, it is part of the broader activities of Russian special services in Estonia and the scope of influence operations, a fact confirmed by the Security Police and the Foreign Intelligence Service.

Esimees Lauri Hussar
19:57:25
AI Summary

Chairman Lauri Hussar addresses his colleague Jaak Valge and asks him for something.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
19:57:27
AI Summary

Jaak Valge claimed that the public had been disinformed regarding Shumakov’s car and driver’s license. Regarding the reliability of the Security Police Board’s yearbook, he noted that it should not be as trustworthy a source of truth for him as the Quran is for Muslims, and he considered the hypothesis of an attack by Russian special services to be fundamentally strange, adding that an attack on his wife and Darja Saar by Iranian special services would be equally improbable.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
19:58:30
AI Summary

Members of the Riigikogu should contact a representative of the Security Police or a member of the special committee for the supervision of security agencies to obtain precise and confirmed information regarding the attack and related matters. This is because the information is classified as a state secret, and due to the ongoing proceedings, the minister cannot disclose the details.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:01:10
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Toomas Kivimägi addressed Helle-Moonika Helme with a request.

Helle-Moonika Helme
Helle-Moonika Helme
Profiling Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna fraktsioon
20:01:12
AI Summary

Helle-Moonika Helme expressed concern regarding the competence of security agencies and the accuracy of the facts, and criticized the errors presented in the KAPO yearbook, which cause fear and uncertainty among the public.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:02:21
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Toomas Kivimägi thanks the audience.

Helle-Moonika Helme
Helle-Moonika Helme
Profiling Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna fraktsioon
20:02:22
AI Summary

This does not provide me, as a member of the Riigikogu, with any sense of security, and I believe it doesn't offer the public any reassurance either.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
20:02:29
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets stated that the question contains two false premises: first, we must verify whether the Internal Security Service erred or not, and whether you are operating on misinformation; and second, although both family members are journalists and the action was directed against them, the objective was to influence free journalism, and the impact does not depend on gender or whether the influencing occurred through the spouse or not.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:04:31
AI Summary

This is simply a request to invite Arvo Aller to speak.

Arvo Aller
Arvo Aller
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
20:04:34
AI Summary

Arvo Aller expresses his dissatisfaction over the lack of a response, highlights the greater danger of telephone scams targeting the elderly, and asks what steps have been taken to ensure older citizens feel confident that the police will protect them, regardless of the presence of specialized services.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
20:05:36
AI Summary

Lauri Läänemets stated that the elderly and, more broadly, people aged 30 to 50 are increasingly falling victim to fraud. Therefore, it is necessary to raise awareness through various channels, involve the media and loved ones, and explain the danger, as difficult personal circumstances are often the underlying cause in many of these cases.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:07:20
AI Summary

We are calling Rain Epler to the stage.

Rain Epler
Rain Epler
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
20:07:21
AI Summary

Rain Epler asks whether your political tactic is to launch blunt and sweeping allegations concerning the Russian special services directly into the media just to grab attention and push the facts into the background.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
20:08:01
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets stated that he is unable and unauthorized to comment on the activities of the special services or the details of specific investigative procedures, adding that information regarding the matter should be requested from the Prosecutor's Office or the Security Police Board (Kaitsepolitseiamet), as ministers do not interfere in investigations outside of the manner prescribed by law.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:10:10
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Toomas Kivimägi addresses Evelin Poolamets with a request.

Evelin Poolamets
Evelin Poolamets
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
20:10:12
AI Summary

The speaker asks whether, following these two incidents, there have been any further acts of car destruction that would demonstrate the deliberate intent of the Russian special services, or if the activity was, in fact, random.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
20:10:42
AI Summary

He stated that he had no knowledge of vehicle sabotage incidents that might have been perpetrated by the Russian special services, and if such incidents did occur and the Security Police (Kaitsepolitsei) discovered them, they were not accidental. The Security Police yearbook notes that they collected information for the preparation of attacks, and some of the planned actions were indeed carried out, but the precise reasons remain undisclosed and may be explained by the Security Police Board (Kaitsepolitseiamet).

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:12:16
AI Summary

Ants Frosch is invited to speak.

Ants Frosch
Ants Frosch
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
20:12:18
AI Summary

Ants Frosch addresses the Minister of the Interior and asks what the timeframe for this procedure is and when evidence will be presented at the court hearing. He also notes that these circumstances must not be disclosed to a member of the Security Authorities Oversight Committee, and the truth will likely only emerge in court.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
20:13:20
AI Summary

Lauri Läänemets confirmed that the truth will eventually emerge in court, noting that this is exactly what the judicial system is designed for. He added that the Russian special services carried out the attack, that it was planned, and that any doubts are baseless. However, he did not specify an exact timeline, as the case is moving to court shortly.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:14:42
AI Summary

Deputy Speaker Toomas Kivimägi thanks the minister, announces that there are no questions, opens the debate, and calls upon Jaak Valge.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
20:15:05
AI Summary

He asks who the car actually belongs to, accuses the Internal Security Service of misrepresenting the car's ownership and spreading disinformation, and suggests that this is an attempt to portray the Minister of the Interior as a hero. He also notes that if the current parliamentary rules of procedure were in effect, he would submit a motion of no confidence against the minister.

Aseesimees Toomas Kivimägi
20:18:09
AI Summary

Thank you all very much; there will be no further discussion, and we have concluded our consideration of this agenda item.