Inquiry Regarding the Confiscation of the Estonian Soldier Memorial (no 642)

Session: 15th Riigikogu, 4th session, plenary sitting

Date: 2024-10-21 22:52

Total Speeches: 40

Membership: 15

Agenda Duration: 59m

AI Summaries: 40/40 Speeches (100.0%)

Analysis: Structured Analysis

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Summary

Inquiry No. 642 addressed the questions posed by members of the Riigikogu, Jaak Valge and Varro Vooglaid, regarding the confiscation of an Estonian soldier memorial on the Lihula road in September 2024. The petitioners criticized the government's actions, considering them disgraceful and supportive of the suppression of the memory of those who fought for Estonia’s independence. Jaak Valge emphasized that the memorial was a copy of the 2004 monument, which a semiotic expertise did not identify as containing Nazi symbolism, and that the 1944 leadership of the Republic of Estonia called on men to fight against the Red Army, regardless of uniform.

The Minister of the Interior, Lauri Läänemets, responded that the government respects freedom fighters, but the police’s actions were justified in preventing an offense. He highlighted two reasons: the planned installation of the monument in a prohibited road safety zone and received information regarding the presence of Nazi symbolism, which required expertise. Läänemets denied the execution of a special operation and stressed that a minister lacks the competence to direct police operations. During the debate, Läänemets confirmed that the commissioned expert analyses did not identify any prohibited symbolism on the memorial. The petitioners (Vooglaid, Lukas, Põlluaas) demanded the immediate return of the monument and a public apology, highlighting the government’s double standards compared to the red symbolism located on the Defense Forces’ cemetery, which Läänemets condemned in the same instance.

Decisions Made 1
Collective Decision

Decisions were not made.

Most Active Speaker
Henn Põlluaas
Henn Põlluaas

Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed

Henn Põlluaas (better) was very active, criticizing the interior minister’s responses as "embarrassing evasion" and accusing the government of acting on historical memory in a way that is rooted in a Russian Putinist narrative. He also received extra time.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
22:52:43
AI Summary

The Riigikogu proceeds to the fourth item on the agenda, where Jaak Valge and Varro Vooglaid submitted Interpellation No. 642 concerning the confiscation of the Estonian soldier's memorial, and Jaak Valge will deliver a report.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
22:53:13
AI Summary

Jaak Valge criticizes the government for confiscating the Lihula monument, even though the conclusion of the semiotic expertise highlighted a strong Estonian identity and found no Nazi symbolism there. He further emphasizes that in 1944, Estonian men were called upon to mobilize into the German forces to defend independence, not into the Red Army, and therefore, the memory of their struggle deserves respect.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
22:58:23
AI Summary

Vice-Chairman Arvo Aller thanks the introducer and invites Minister of the Interior Lauri Läänemets to respond to the query.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
22:58:38
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets confirmed that the claim is untrue and that the government respects the memory of all who fought for Estonia’s freedom, but he explained that the police were reacting to an impending public order violation, and that the monument’s placement in the road’s protection zone, along with the suspicion of Nazi symbolism, required an expert assessment, emphasizing that neither the minister nor the government organized the actions and that responsibility and supervision rest with the Police and Border Guard Board, and that the honoring of memories will continue.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:08:26
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller announces that there are still a few questions remaining and asks Varro Vooglaid to present them.

Varro Vooglaid
Varro Vooglaid
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:08:28
AI Summary

Vooglaid accused the government of obstructing the erection of the Lihula monument and deemed it shameful, emphasizing that the men who fought in 1944 are not recognized by the state. He added that if the police examined the copy, the issue could be resolved in seconds, because the monument at that time did not contain Nazi symbols.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:09:41
AI Summary

He stated that it was entirely routine police work, not a special operation, and that police officers are not experts in symbolism, which is why expert assessments were commissioned, the results of which could vary.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:10:57
AI Summary

The entire focus of the address was simply calling Ants Frosch: "Ants Frosch, please!"

Ants Frosch
Ants Frosch
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:10:59
AI Summary

Ants Frosch asks who assigned the police the task of preventive action, at what level that decision was made, and who oversees police activities in Estonia.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:11:36
AI Summary

Lauri Läänemets stated that the police operate within the framework of laws and under the supervision of security agencies. If there is a law requiring preventative action, and a reliable tip or piece of information is received, the police must act on that basis and are not permitted to disregard the information.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:12:29
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller invites Henn Põlluaas to come forward and speak.

Henn Põlluaas
Henn Põlluaas
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:12:32
AI Summary

Henn Põlluaas is accusing Interior Minister Läänemets of a lack of information and insufficient answers. He links this to the embarrassment that arose regarding the interpretation of national symbols and criticizes the police's overreaction, stressing the need for the minister to provide clarification and demonstrate greater competence.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:13:55
AI Summary

The speech emphasizes that it is your time to act.

Henn Põlluaas
Henn Põlluaas
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:13:57
AI Summary

Henn Põlluaas emphasizes that the same requirement must also be put to your subordinates—namely, the Police Authority.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:14:00
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets said that the police monitor compliance with the law, and although no one has to be competent in all fields, the information received proved largely true, because the memorial stone was erected.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:16:00
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller addresses Jaak Valge and asks him to speak.

Jaak Valge
Jaak Valge
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:16:01
AI Summary

Jaak Valge criticizes the explanations as confusing, suggesting that the motive behind our fathers and grandfathers fighting for Estonia is being concealed. He draws a parallel to monuments in Latvia and Finland that feature the German uniform, and asks who authorized the semiotic expertise concerning the confiscation and when it was completed. Furthermore, he questions the permissibility of the red symbolism on the Bronze Soldier displayed at the Military Cemetery, and asks why the statue—which actually bears no Nazi symbolism—is prohibited.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:17:17
AI Summary

The speech emphasizes that now is your time.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:17:20
AI Summary

Expert assessments have been commissioned, and no prohibited symbolism was identified; regarding the Red Army soldier monument located in the Defence Forces Cemetery, it was stated that it is there, it is under the responsibility of the Defence Forces, and no one has begun installing it.

Leo Kunnas
Leo Kunnas
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:17:52
AI Summary

Leo Kunnas notes that in the Second World War, the memory of Estonians has primarily remained in the hands of the remembrance of Red Army fighters, and he asks how it would be right and legitimate to commemorate those Estonians who did not fight in the Red Army or those whom the Red Army fought against.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:17:52
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller calls upon Leo Kunnas to speak.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:18:51
AI Summary

The answer is very simple: we must commemorate and honor them. Furthermore, Estonian monuments bear distinctively Estonian, patriotic symbols, which can be expressed through the Estonian flag, the coat of arms, the national anthem, and lines of verse.

Rain Epler
Rain Epler
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:19:41
AI Summary

Rain Epler asked the minister whether an expert analysis had been commissioned and if no symbolism was identified, whether the monument would be returned quickly. At the same time, he requested a clear statement regarding 'red symbolism' in connection with the 'Red Soldier,' or Aljoša.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:19:41
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller invites Rain Epler to the stage.

Siseminister Lauri Läänemets
23:20:25
AI Summary

Interior Minister Lauri Läänemets said that he does not support the display of red symbolism, and the less of it there is in the Estonian public space, the better; he has been dealing with the removal of monuments in Narva, and expert analyses have been commissioned, which did not identify prohibited symbols, and if someone claims ownership of this stone and contacts the police, the police will act according to the law.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:21:22
AI Summary

Vice-Chairman Arvo Aller announced that the questioning period had concluded, thanked the Minister, and opened the floor for debate, informing the assembly that Ants Frosch would be the first speaker.

Ants Frosch
Ants Frosch
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:21:47
AI Summary

The report claims that foreign states intervened in 2004, and the government attempted to suppress the issue, but lacked a clear vision of how to commemorate the men who fell for Estonia’s freedom in 1944. Furthermore, it points to the risks associated with information gathering and surveillance, as well as similar attempts made previously, for example, during Obama’s visit to Tallinn in 2014.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:26:21
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller proposed granting three minutes of additional time.

Ants Frosch
Ants Frosch
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:26:23
AI Summary

Ants Frosch expressed concern that the Internal Security Service has been operating without oversight from the Ministry of the Interior, which threatens both the maintenance of security and the proper collection of evidence. Consequently, he is demanding a clear audit and a comprehensive review.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:29:05
AI Summary

Deputy Speaker Arvo Aller announced that Tõnis Lukas would be taking the stage next.

23:29:17
AI Summary

The presentation centers on the 1944 resistance and the heroic actions of the Otto Tief government, the continued resilience of the nation, the discussion surrounding the symbols of the occupation forces, and identifying options for their placement or return through dialogue with the owners.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:33:53
AI Summary

The focus of Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller's speech was three minutes of extra time.

23:33:54
AI Summary

The winter and spring of 1944 demonstrated that Estonian national military units—even in German uniform and as an SS division, and including women—fought on the borders for Estonian freedom. Their bravery gave us the chance to maintain continuity in Estonia for a few precious days before the start of the Russian totalitarian occupation. Therefore, these heroes should be commemorated with dignity.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:37:28
AI Summary

The speech concluded with words of thanks, and Varro Vooglaid was invited to speak next.

Varro Vooglaid
Varro Vooglaid
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:37:40
AI Summary

Varro Vooglaid urged that the men of 1944 who stood for Estonian independence be commemorated with dignity, and called for an end to the investigation of the monument, the return of its copy, and the issuance of a public apology, emphasizing the need to focus on a truly worthy remembrance.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:43:00
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller granted Henn Põlluaas three minutes of additional time.

Henn Põlluaas
Henn Põlluaas
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:43:17
AI Summary

Stresses that the men who fought for Estonian independence were not Nazis and that their memory must be protected, while accusing the government of playing along with Russian propaganda and demanding the removal of Soviet/Russian symbols, including the Alyosha statue.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:51:28
AI Summary

This is a brief call to action, simply saying that now is your time.

Henn Põlluaas
Henn Põlluaas
Profiling Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad Riigikogu liikmed
23:51:30
AI Summary

He emphasized that he fought for Estonia, not for Greater Germany, Hitler, or Nazism, and stated that those governments and politicians who fail to acknowledge this must not be part of Estonia's leadership or in charge of leading Estonia.

Aseesimees Arvo Aller
23:51:51
AI Summary

Deputy Chairman Arvo Aller stated that the Minister does not wish to participate in the discussions, and he is therefore concluding the discussions and the consideration of the fourth item on the agenda; the query has been answered.